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牛角尖 于 1999/10/28 01:49:38 发表在 汉英




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• 无法无天可以译成 audacious, bold, or intrepid - 妹 19991028021524
  • 私见以为有些不妥。 - Tak 19991028022227
    • How about:.. - Kidding 19991028072621
• Different approaches to interpretation and translation - 古月 19991028112819
• 牛角尖叩谢各位！这里果然是长知识的好地方！ - 牛角尖 19991028190534
• 和尚打伞，无法无天。 - wlfan 20040604022555



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无法无天可以译成 audacious, bold, or intrepid

作者：妹 - 19991028021524 ***



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私见以为有些不妥。

作者：Tak - 19991028022227 ***

“无法无天”有贬意；而上列几字都是褒意。
可试：“challenge the law openly”。

Tak

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How about:..

作者：Kidding - 19991028072621 ***


Might makes right.
Might overcomes right.
Reason gives way to force.
When force has its way, reason will retire.
When might takes charge, justice withdraws.
When might is master, justice is servant.
Where force prevails, justice perishes
When might comes in, justice goes out.

Or in Chinglish:
A Buddha with an umbrella, no law no sky. :-)



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Different approaches to interpretation and translation

作者：古月 - 19991028112819 ***

In addressing language peculiarities such as puns and
quiz-cracks, there can be several approaches as discussed
earlier at this forum.

First, there's a difference between "interpretation" and
"translation." By interpretation, it's enough to put across
the meaning. In this particular case, when one is asked to
do the interpretation on the spot, I think he has only to use
one word:"unruly" for 和尚打伞，无法无天.

By translation, there can be different sub-approaches as well.

1) The Annotative Approach. If one is doing translation, he
may have more time to explain this Chinese quiz-crack with a
footnote after giving a literal rendition in the text
proper. The annotation can be placed either at the beginning
as an introduction or at the end as a footnote or put in
brackets and inserted in between the lines:

和尚打伞，无法无天。
"as a Buddhist monk with an open umbrella over his head --
no law, no Heaven"[footnote#]

[footnote#]: A Chinese quiz-crack describing someone as
never playing by the established rule whatsoever and never
accepting any authorities. "A Buddhist monk," whose head is
usually clean-shaven, implies "no hair" which, in this
context, is taken to mean "no law," because "hair(发)"in
Chinese is homophonic with another character which means
"law(法)," And with an open umbrella over his head, the sky
is blocked, hence "no Heaven" -- the symbol of authority.
The whole quiz-crack thus describes people who have no
respect for rules and authorities.

2) The Adaptive Approach. It can also be called "fuzzy
equivalence," which means a similar saying is identified in
the target language albeit with different nuances:

和尚打伞，无法无天。
When the awful is lawful, treason is the reason.

Not the exact equivalent maybe? No less fun though.

Sometimes the "Annotative Approach" should be used to
explain the meaning of pun words between languages while
retaining their cultural identity. But more often than not,
the "Adaptive Approach" is more challenging and therefore
more kicking. Indeed both are useful approaches to language
peculiarities although they may have different effects in
different circumstances.

Gu Yue

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牛角尖叩谢各位！这里果然是长知识的好地方！

作者：牛角尖 - 19991028190534 ***



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和尚打伞，无法无天。

作者(Author)：wlfan - 2004/06/04 02:25:55 ***

baldly bold.

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